8. Statement by the Cabinet Secretary for Local Government and Public Services: Towards a Distinct Approach to the Penal System in Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:09 pm on 11 December 2018.

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Photo of Leanne Wood Leanne Wood Plaid Cymru 5:09, 11 December 2018

Thank you for your statement, Cabinet Secretary. In the first instance, can I say that, as a former probation officer, I welcome the general direction of travel towards a criminal justice system based on rehabilitation as opposed to punishment?

Pre-court diversion means significant investment in probation services, and it's a real shame, given that you've outlined the problems caused by the privatisation of the probation service, that your Government didn't put up a bigger fight against the privatisation of those services when we in Plaid Cymru were warning that exactly this would happen.

Now, Plaid Cymru has long advocated for more rehabilitation, and without seeing the detail of any specific proposals, I'm of course limited in the contribution that I can make at this point. So, I look forward to seeing specific proposals published in the new year. I will say, though, that its apparent for all of us in the Chamber that your statement today comes at a time when there is growing concern about the state of the criminal justice system in Wales and that there is a consensus forming that things cannot continue as they are. A swathe of reports by the Institute of Welsh Affairs, the Wales Governance Centre, the Howard League for Penal Reform, and most recently a report by the Welsh Language Commissioner highlighting how the needs of Welsh-speaking prisoners are not being met, provide further and concrete evidence that the criminal justice system run by the Tories in Westminster is punitive, based on profit and stands in direct opposition to the aims of rehabilitation.

The effects of not having a women's prison in Wales are well known in terms of the impact on families and communities, but clearly establishing a women's prison for Wales is not the answer. Can I therefore invite the Cabinet Secretary to confirm that the blueprint and the delivery plan will contain the firm commitment not to support the building of any new prison in Wales? And can I also ask for further clarity on what specific measures you as a Government will take to divert women away from the criminal justice system?

I welcome the rights-based approach to youth offending and the focus on adverse childhood experiences, and I would welcome further detail on this. Which agencies will you be working with in order to realise your vision on this? Will people have a right to access counselling services, for example, to overcome childhood trauma, both when that trauma happens in childhood and also later on in adulthood, if that is needed? Will there be a right to substance use treatment, if that's what is needed? What does a rights-based approach mean in concrete terms?

Plaid Cymru has long argued that it is ultimately only the devolution of responsibility for the criminal justice system that will allow us to design a comprehensive system that is fairer and that includes having rehabilitation at its heart. We await the Thomas commission's recommendations in this respect, but, in the interim, can I ask you to confirm how these proposals for a distinct Welsh approach for youth and women offenders are being developed under the current insufficient constitutional frameworks and how those will align with future developments occurring in the light of the Thomas commission?

Finally, can I ask you to put on the record that you are in favour of the full devolution of all aspects of the criminal justice system to address the underlying issues highlighted in your statement and to give effect to these principles of rehabilitation?