The Provision of Social Care

2. Questions to the Minister for Health and Social Services – in the Senedd on 13 March 2019.

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Photo of Mike Hedges Mike Hedges Labour

(Translated)

3. Will the Minister make a statement on the provision of social care in Wales? OAQ53541

Photo of Julie Morgan Julie Morgan Labour 3:15, 13 March 2019

'A Healthier Wales' sets out our vision for a seamless health and social care system. We've put a strong legal framework in place to make that happen, including the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014, and new approaches to joint working and staff development will help make that vision a reality.

Photo of Mike Hedges Mike Hedges Labour 3:16, 13 March 2019

Can I thank you for that response? I believe high-quality social care is actually preventative spend because it stops people ending up in the final place of hospitals, which low-quality social care can mean, or no social care can mean, that they end up in. What is the Welsh Government's intention regarding social care being provided either directly by local authorities or via care co-operatives?

Photo of Julie Morgan Julie Morgan Labour

I thank Mike Hedges for that very important question. I have begun initial discussions with local government, with the third sector and the independent sector providers about how to improve the stability of care and support provision in Wales. These discussions are at a very early stage, but I will keep Members updated on progress. But, just to give one example, the Welsh Government has been working with the Wales Co-operative Centre and they are preparing a report that will include clear recommendations and next steps for continuing to develop and strengthen the role of co-operatives and social enterprises providing social care in Wales. That is the Care to Co-operate project.

Photo of Janet Finch-Saunders Janet Finch-Saunders Conservative 3:17, 13 March 2019

Here in Wales we are fortunate to have many adults who are prepared to selflessly give their time to provide stability and security to children when they need it most. These individuals include private foster carers, who make private arrangements with parents. Now, as you'll be aware, private foster carers and parents of children placed are required to notify the social services department of those arrangements made so as to promote safeguarding and welfare of those children. What steps will you be taking to ensure that private foster parents, following the Children (Private Arrangements for Fostering) (Wales) Regulations 2006, know that they have to notify the local authority at least six weeks in advance of any proposed arrangements and that the relevant local authority will then undertake an inspector visit within seven working days and then, obviously, compile the very necessary report?

Photo of Julie Morgan Julie Morgan Labour 3:18, 13 March 2019

Well, I thank Janet Finch-Saunders for that question. Obviously, private foster parents need to be covered by these regulations that she has described, but, obviously, it's very important that they know what they have to do. So, I think it is incumbent on the local authority to ensure that private foster parents are made aware, that they make publicly available the information about what private foster parents have to do, because it's extremely important that private foster parents are regulated for the reasons that she's given.

Photo of David Lloyd David Lloyd Plaid Cymru

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Minister, would you agree that it’s unacceptable to tell a vulnerable older person who is poor and yet who doesn't reach the high threshold to receive public care following assessment—would you agree that it’s unacceptable to tell such a person, 'Just pay for your own care privately or go without'?

Photo of Julie Morgan Julie Morgan Labour 3:19, 13 March 2019

I think I'd have to have some more details about this particular case that you're describing before I could comment on it. It obviously sounds a very unfortunate incident to have happened, but I'd be grateful if you could let me know the details of that case and I can respond.