Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:19 pm on 26 March 2019.
Thank you. I thank Helen Mary Jones for her contribution, and for her support for this over many years. So, thank you for that. Yes, I think it's very important that younger children are consulted. As I said in the speech, UNICEF has already consulted in secondary schools and primary schools, and we saw the clear view in primary schools that they wanted this law to take place. So, yes, we are planning to consult with older and younger children because the way that this affects them is obviously—that's the key issue. So, we will be doing that. And this is for everybody—every section of society. But we do know with some groups it is easier to reach. It is more difficult to reach some groups because we aren't going out of our way to reach them. That is something that I think we are learning in every aspect of policy and work. But it does affect everybody. And, as you mentioned, mothers or parents who may be more affluent may have exactly the same issues, so this is for everybody. So, I absolutely reiterate that.
And I think working through schools is very important. This legislation has been welcomed by the teaching unions, because, of course, it's been against the law to use physical punishment in schools for a long time, where of course you are in loco parentis—the teachers are—although of course we do consider the whole of the workforce, the teaching workforce. So, that's very welcome.
We can actually implement the legislation after it's received Royal Assent at any point, but we're thinking of two years to make it absolutely as safe as we can that everybody knows about it, and taking into account concerns that have been legitimately expressed. We do feel very strongly that we want to take as many people with us as we possibly can. Thank you.