5. Statement by the Minister for Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs: The Bovine TB Eradication Programme

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:05 pm on 30 April 2019.

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Photo of Lesley Griffiths Lesley Griffiths Labour 5:05, 30 April 2019

Thank you, Andrew R.T. Davies, for the series of questions. I set out in my statement that whilst there had been a 5 per cent decrease in the 12 months that we're talking about in this statement in herd incidents, there was an increase in the number of cattle, and I stated why that was, with the heightened sensitivity, and also, I think, improved testing. But I do not underestimate the emotional or psychological impact this has on farming families and businesses and I absolutely accept that. And just, sort of, going over to your question around compensation—of course, 10 per cent of funding for the TB eradication programme comes from Europe, and I don't know whether that funding will be there. So, I certainly wasn't linking it in the way I think you're suggesting. However, it is a fact of life. All our budgets have reduced, and I do get approximately 10 per cent of my—well, I say the TB eradication programme, it's actually for all diseases. So, for instance, if we had an outbreak of African swine fever, as has been seen in Europe this year—those countries will have got the funding in relation to those diseases from the same pot of money. So, I have to look at how I'm going to fund that. I was asked questions, I think by Llyr Huws Gruffydd, in committee about where I would find that funding. Well, I would have to find that funding from within my budget. So, I'm not directly linking, I'm just stating facts that we do need to look at the way compensation is funded.

You asked me whether I'd be going out to consultation. What I've done—so, going back to this statement today, this comes following the refreshed TB eradication programme that I launched back in October 2017 when I committed to reporting on an annual basis and it was thought the most appropriate way to do that was to report on a calendar year of statistics. So, what I'm reporting on today is January to December of 2018. So, what I have said to officials is that I would like to review the compensation aspect of this. I think there are other parts of the programme that we need to watch very carefully. Certainly, it's monitored very carefully, and there is a flexibility within the programme that I've been very pleased to see. So, for instance—and, again, I referred to it in my statement—while we've seen a spike in disease in the intermediate area, we've been able to be flexible about how we look at what we're doing in that area, bringing forward additional measures.

You asked about what more we want farmers to do. Biosecurity is clearly very important, and I know you absolutely share that view, and the fact that where we have had incidents of TB breakdown and we can pinpoint it, for instance, to where farmers have purchased cattle—I've been looking at whether we need to bring in a mandatory informed purchasing system, for instance. I saw out in New Zealand they had that there and that's something that I'm considering. I prefer to do it on a voluntary basis. So, we funded livestock markets to be able to revive that information, but I haven't seen the increased information that I would have wanted to. So, I am looking at whether we need to bring forward a mandatory scheme. So, I think there are a suite of things that we can do, but I think it's really important that we work in collaboration and partnership and I want to continue to do that.