Thank you very much, Leanne Wood, also clearly speaking with your experience, coming to this Assembly with that experience and speaking up on these justice issues, and also recognising that the points that you have made today are very valid in terms of how we take forward the implementation of these blueprints. I also, in terms of the probation service and the fact that there was widespread welcome of the reunification of the probation service in Wales, when that was announced at an earlier stage, recognise the fact that there were also concerns raised about how that would play out in terms of some of the responsibilities that would remain with the private and third sector, and I spoke to Napo about that as well. But I think the proposed changes actually do provide an opportunity to revisit the national pathway and to look at re-examining the entire through the gate service in Wales to allow for differences in services, and they may be both voluntary and statutory, but I will be meeting with Napo again, and the prison and probation service, to look at how we can develop this bespoke approach in Wales.

You also make important points in terms of our criminal justice. The First Minister outlined three areas that we should begin a focus on in terms of crime and justice, with the devolution of the youth justice system and probation service to Wales and new powers in relation to women offenders. We know that the criminal justice system is currently the responsibility of the UK Government, but many of the services required to manage offenders and ex-offenders and promote rehabilitation are devolved to the Welsh Government, so we do look forward to the response of the Thomas commission. The fact that that was established in September 2017, taking evidence throughout last year, chaired, of course, by former Lord Chief Justice, John Thomas—it received 150 submissions from people with direct experience. So, that will be crucial to us when we receive this report in September in terms of moving this forward.

I think your points about female offending are key. I am pressing for more than one centre in Wales. I made that clear in my statement and I believe those centres have got to meet the needs of Wales. As I've already described, I'm meeting women offenders shortly when I visit Eastwood, and I'll look into that issue in terms of approved premises for women offenders, but I think it's interesting when we look at the kind of models that are being considered in terms of women's residential centres, because there have already been proposals made. There are, for example, discrete unit models, where women on the cusp of custody, who may struggle to comply with a community order, at risk of a custodial sentence—that would be referred through a community order with conditions attached to the centre, referred by probation on licence.

There's also the hub-and-spoke model, a sentence to community order with conditions attached to the centre, a phased support model, which also will—not only in terms of community order conditions, but other community orders and suspended sentence, referred by probation services on licence. So, there's a whole range of issues and options being looked at in terms of the potential for these women's centres.

We need to ensure that we look at those wider issues in terms of the preventative nature of the work that we're undertaking—that's where we have the devolved responsibilities—in terms of ACEs and the fact that this is about intervention and prevention at an early stage.