External School Activities

1. Questions to the Minister for Education – in the Senedd on 5 June 2019.

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Photo of Mick Antoniw Mick Antoniw Labour

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1. Will the Minister make a statement on Welsh Government policy in ensuring that external school activities are inclusive to all pupils? OAQ53970

Photo of Kirsty Williams Kirsty Williams Liberal Democrat 1:30, 5 June 2019

Equity of provision for all learners constitutes a major priority for this Government. I strongly encourage schools to ensure that inclusivity and equity are at the forefront of all decision making when it comes to any activities that could lead to additional costs for families.

Photo of Mick Antoniw Mick Antoniw Labour

Minister, thank you for that answer. I know the efforts that have been taken to ensure that there is inclusivity. But, of course, there is the growing concern, arising from the Musicians' Union report, about the accessibility of music lessons, the issues that arise now in terms of the affordability of children being able to attend external trips—arts, culture, and so on. And, of course, there's one new one, which we seem to have inherited from America, and that is the development of school proms, where the cost seems to be not only rising, but it appears to be a competition between parents—some having limousines, and so on, going to schools. And it does raise this concern more broadly, when put within the context of all the other things, that there is a growing issue with regard to those who may or may not be able to afford to participate in some of these. And I wonder if this is an area, Minister, where you could indicate whether you'd be prepared to undertake further research and analysis, to assess what the scale of this is, and how it might be tackled.

Photo of Kirsty Williams Kirsty Williams Liberal Democrat 1:31, 5 June 2019

I am familiar with the phenomenon that is the prom, and it's a world away from the senior school discos I'm sure we all attended. The cost of the school day is an issue that I'm very interested in. I am fully aware of the significant impact it can have on some children, often from groups that would benefit most from those extra-curricular and out-of-school activities. I have asked Children in Wales to produce resources for schools, to encourage the consideration of the impact of additional costs on families, and the first series of guides will be available by September and will cover a range of specific issues. Of course, additional to that, we will be investing more than £5.1 million in the pupil development grant access fund this year, to help parents with the costs associated with the school day, including school uniform, and kit and equipment, as well as spending a record amount on PDG in itself to support the education of some of our most disadvantaged children.

Photo of Nick Ramsay Nick Ramsay Conservative 1:32, 5 June 2019

Can I concur with some of the points that have been made by Mick Antoniw? The issue of mental health in schools has been one that's been rising up the agenda, and I think there's growing evidence that extra-curricular activities in school are beneficial, in many cases, to pupils' mental health. But, of course, the costs that Mick Antoniw talked about—the associated costs—can also have a negative effect, so those two need to be balanced. In terms of the wider mental health issue, what are you doing in terms of making sure that pupils do have advocacy available to them at the earliest opportunity, and that they're aware of where to go if there are issues of not being able to attend extra-curricular activities and of feeling excluded?

Photo of Kirsty Williams Kirsty Williams Liberal Democrat 1:33, 5 June 2019

Thank you for that. You're correct—the opportunity to participate in a wide range of activities can have a very positive effect on mental health and well-being for our children, and an inability, or a worry that you won't be able to do that can have the opposite effect. And that's why, as I said, we have commissioned Children in Wales to produce these resources and guides for schools, so that they can be cognisant of that when they are making decisions. With regard to general health and well-being in school, you'll be aware that both I and the Minister for Health and Social Services continue to work with a wide range of stakeholders to ensure the successful implementation of the recommendations of the Children, Young People and Education Committee's 'Mind over Matter' report. And some of these issues were, indeed, discussed at this week's meeting.