It's very clear to me that the ability to control immigration was something that was on many people's minds when they voted to leave the European Union in June 2016. And even amongst those who voted to remain, there were still many people who had concerns about what they perceive to be unsustainable levels of immigration coming into the UK, and, of course, the people of Wales also held some of those concerns. In fact, the British social attitudes survey suggests that 86 per cent of respondents in Wales thought that immigration should be reduced, and that is a higher level than across the UK as a whole. I think that has to be at the forefront of all of our minds when we consider this issue of immigration.

Like you, my party's made it very, very clear that, whilst wanting to make sure that we've got the ability to control our own borders and have our own immigration policy, we've got to do so recognising the enormous contribution that immigration has played here in Wales and the wider UK over the years, enriching our communities and, indeed, bringing many new, different perspectives to life and helping to fuel the growth that we've seen in our economy in recent years as well. So, that's certainly not lost on us. And I was a little bit disappointed that you didn't refer to the fact that the UK Government's actually coming from the same place as the Welsh Government in terms of reflecting on the value of immigration more widely. 

Now, when the people of Wales voted to leave, one thing that they didn't vote for was to continue with the status quo and, of course, I appreciate that your party's position is one where you want to see us remain in the EU now, but, of course, when the people of Wales have been asked, they don't want that, what they actually want to see is some change. And they also want a fair immigration system, I believe. Now, your Government document, the 'Brexit and Fair Movement of People' document, makes it very clear that your ambition, should the UK leave the EU, is to have a very similar system to the one that existed before. In other words, no change from the previous system in that migrants from the European Economic Area and from Switzerland who are already coming to work in the UK should still be able to access the same work opportunities and same benefit opportunities. Now, I don't think that that's what people in Wales want to see. That's why I think it weighed very heavily in people's minds in that referendum.

And I don't think, actually, that that's a fair attitude to immigration, either, because what it does is it favours those immigrants who want to come to the UK from the EEA and Switzerland and, actually, causes problems for those who want to come from outside, in the wider world. So there's no level playing field there and I don't think that that is right. So, do you accept that it's not right to treat people differently depending on where they come from? Can you also tell us whether you welcome the promises that have been made in the White Paper? I heard what you said about the need to protect people's rights, for those who are already here, and of course the White Paper makes it very clear that we want to cause no disruption to those people who have already settled here and set up a home, whether they're from the EU or elsewhere and that, on that basis, they should be allowed to continue to remain here. And, of course, that's one of the other things that the White Paper proposes: that there should be guarantees about that. 

You made reference to the £30,000 limit, and I would agree with you that there are some concerns that we hold on these benches around that limit and whether that's an appropriate limit for Wales, given the fact that, unfortunately, we are the lowest wage economy in Britain. So, do you welcome the recent announcements by the Home Secretary that they are reviewing that limit, and I expect very much that limit to come down? It may be regional—I think that's one of the other things that has been proposed as well. You made reference to the £20,000 suggestion that the Wales Centre for Public Policy has put forward; I'm not sure whether that is the right level for Wales. It may, indeed, need to be lower than that in some places, but it would be good to see some of the rationale behind that £20,000 figure that they came up with. 

You made no reference to students in your statement at all, but, obviously, one of the things that the White Paper does say—the UK Government's White Paper—is it gives a clear commitment that there'll be no limits on the number of international students who can come to study here, and I would hope very much that you would welcome that commitment too. You made no reference, either, to the exploitation that many are suffering due to modern-day slavery. And I know that both the Welsh and UK Governments have been determined to stamp out modern-day slavery here in Wales. Unfortunately, we do see evidence of it in our communities. Can you assure us that the Welsh Government is still as committed to stamping out modern-day slavery and its impacts? I want to pay tribute to the chair of the cross-party group, Joyce Watson, for her work on this. It obviously is important that we don't drop our guard on that by simply allowing the completely free movement of people. 

And one final—[Interruption.] One final—