4. Statement by the Counsel General and Brexit Minister: The Implications of the UK Government's Immigration Proposals for Welsh Public Services and the Wider Economy

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:07 pm on 11 June 2019.

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Photo of David Rowlands David Rowlands UKIP 5:07, 11 June 2019

Counsel General, is it not true that the whole of your statement confirms to this establishment and to the people of Wales that the Welsh Government is committed to an open-door policy on immigration? It matters not how you dress it up with references such as lowering the salary base of the UK Government White Paper proposals or simply not curtailing the rights of EU workers. The full thrust of this document is that this Government, this Welsh Government, wants mass immigration to carry on. And let's define this business of immigration. We have never, none of us in either of the two parties I've ever represented, talked about no immigration. We've only ever talked about mass immigration: the sort of mass immigration that allows exploitation of immigrants coming into the country, the sort of mass immigration that allows people to come into this country who have no opportunity or possibility of having a job, the sort of mass immigration that allows people who have only criminal desires to come into this country. That is what we're talking about—mass immigration, not immigration per se. We've always argued that we should have the people that we need to come into this country to be allowed to come into this country.

By your own statement, Counsel General, you say that a salary base of £30,000 will affect Wales more than the rest of the UK. Isn't this a stark admission that the oversupply of unskilled and semi-skilled workers, which has occurred in Wales since the extension of the EU countries that have unrestricted access to our labour market, has contributed to keeping the salaries of the indigenous Welsh workforce at an unacceptably low level? Indeed, your statement reeks of low salaries, and you also totally ignore the fact that we still have 68,000 unemployed people in Wales, most in low-skilled areas.

Again in this document you argue against an immigration system that will end free movement and preferential treatment of UK citizens. Counsel General, is that not yet again a stark admission that your Government is against any restrictions on economic migrants, whether the economy needs them or not? You talk about allowing migrants in if they have a job, or will get a job in the near future. Can you please explain to us how on earth this would be monitored? And how would you go about deporting those who did not find work? Quite a harrowing situation.

You cannot deny, Counsel General—. I'm sorry. At the beginning of this statement you talked about upholding the rights of domiciled EU citizens. The UK Government has given an unequivocal guarantee that their rights would be protected, but is it not true that it is the European Union that is refusing to give those same rights to UK citizens living in the EU, and only that is in dispute? Yet again, the Counsel General brings up that oft-quoted mantra that we need foreign doctors and nurses and care workers to run our health service. Well, the truth is most of these come from third-world countries, not the EU, and what an indictment that is. It is because of the decision by the Blair Government to cut 50 per cent of doctor and nurse training places that we still need to plunder these third-world economies for their much-needed clinicians.

You cannot deny, Counsel General, that the whole of this document is testimony to a Government in denial. In denial over the overwhelming evidence that the Welsh people want an end to mass immigration, in denial at the referendum result, in denial at the latest European election result—in fact, in denial about just about everything the Welsh electorate has voted for over the last five years.

Lastly, Counsel General, you say there is broad support for your proposals. Could you please clarify where that broad support comes from? It may be the case in this place but it certainly is not true for the people of Wales outside this institution. But of course it appears their opinion either doesn't matter, or is simply to be read as being based on ignorance.