5. Statement by the Minister for Housing and Local Government: The Working group on Local Government - next steps

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:17 pm on 18 June 2019.

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Photo of Julie James Julie James Labour 5:17, 18 June 2019

Thank you for that series of questions. I think there were 24, so, I'll do my best to answer them.

This proposal has been developed, I cannot emphasise enough, completely co-productively with local government. This is not something that the Welsh Government is proposing to do to local government, it is something we are doing together. It comes out of the working group. The working group worked very effectively, because, as I said in my statement, it's widely accepted throughout the local government landscape that the current system is complex and has potential for duplication, is very non transparent to the citizen who's looking to see how their services are delivered. So, what we're doing is putting in a simplified vehicle that would allow local authorities permissive power—with one or two exceptions, but it's a permissive power that allows local government to come together in a particular format, which they currently don't have access to. We will enable that access through the Bill, which is a committee that has a legal entity in its own right, which is formed of the leaders of the local authorities that collaborate together. So, it's a very simple democratic mechanism. The local authorities will be expected to delegate the powers to that committee that it wants to do regionally in that way, and then that committee can set up any structure it likes underneath that, with any co-option, anybody it wants. We're not in any way—. We're not imposing our will in any way on that; it's entirely a matter for the local authorities that come together to do that piece of regional work.

We're doing that because that does allow things like the North Wales Economic Ambition Board to morph into that structure. It will certainly allow the Cardiff city deal arrangements to morph into that structure. It allows third sector representation. It allows co-option of anybody who is a working partner for local authorities in delivering the services that they're delivering. 

You asked specifically about the regional planning boards. We haven't specifically included them as mandatory or anything else on the face of the Bill, but it will be a vehicle that is open to local authorities and health boards. We didn't have the time to do the policy work to put it onto the face of the Bill, but, in collaboration with local authorities and health boards—and the health Minister and I have had initial conversations about this—we will be looking to see whether we think it would be beneficial, because you correctly identify that, at the moment, some local authorities feel that they sit in the same meeting and only two people change every couple of hours. And we really want to make sure that people are using their time and money in the most effective and efficient way possible.

There will be three areas that we want to explore with local government over the summer. The first of those is in the area of transport, where there's already been a White Paper talking about joint transport authorities. And, rather than layer a different regional arrangement on, we're looking to put that into this arrangement. The Planning (Wales) Act 2015 already has strategic planning arrangements in it. We will put those into this arrangement. And we really would like to put economic development and land use for the development of social housing into this arrangement. That would have three benefits, it seems to us: one is it would allow the collaborative use of land across Wales in order to get the best out of the possibilities for social house building, which we want to do at pace and scale. The second is it would allow people to share scarce human resources. It's very difficult to get hold of all of the skills necessary to build at pace and scale in every area of Wales, so it would allow us to pool those scarce human resources. And third is that it would allow pooled budgets. In introducing this vehicle in the Act, we will be introducing a new performance framework to go with it that will cover off the issue around the cost-benefit analysis and what needs to take place in order to do that and, in collaboration, again, with the WLGA, we will produce the guidance that local authorities will be expected to adhere to when they enter into, or indeed remove themselves from, such an arrangement. But I cannot emphasise enough, Llywydd, that this is done collaboratively with local government. It is something that they want as much as we want, and it will simplify for the citizen of Wales the way in which their services are delivered.