6. Statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services: Preparing the health and care services in Wales for a 'no deal' Brexit

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:03 pm on 1 October 2019.

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Photo of Vaughan Gething Vaughan Gething Labour 5:03, 1 October 2019

Thank you. The position on radioisotopes and other medicines has been a significant concern for me, and I have mentioned this in the Chamber before. It's a good example of products that we use within the health service in a normal way that do have a short shelf life, and so we can't stockpile everything. In terms of the issue of potentially leaving Euratom—which we don't need to leave, but that's the position that the UK Government has previously adopted—then yes, that is potentially an issue.

We haven't taken independent legal advice, because we've had direct assurances from suppliers that they will continue to supply the UK. But I recognise that it's a real risk, and members of the BMA in particular have expressed concern about whether those items can be lawfully provided. But all of the current suppliers say that they are prepared to go through new arrangements to fly into East Midlands Airport, as you mentioned.

Again, this goes back to my concerns about medicines and supplies. It is not so much my concern about getting goods onto ferries or into an aeroplane. It's about getting them around the whole of the UK. Whether you are in Pembrokeshire, County Durham or Cornwall, actually, that's quite a long way from East Midlands Airport. So, if you are a clinician in the Truro hospital, or a clinician in Bangor, you would be understandably concerned: 'Is this going to get to me in time?' You are right; six hours is not a long time.

The plan and the assurance provided says that that should still be possible and that it should still happen. But it's my concern that we have never done this before. We have never deliberately tried to interrupt the supply of goods into the United Kingdom in this way. This is part of the reason why I say that these are plans that are in place, there is a level of assurance about them, but there is uncertainty about the real impact. Because if we do see the kind of transport disruption that is predicted and has been modelled for, then we will see challenges along the way, and that could have a direct impact on the healthcare and experience of people right across the United Kingdom. So I'm far from sanguine and far from positive about it, and I don't share the view of others that everything will be well.