5. Statement by the Minister for Economy and Transport: Concessionary Travel

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:31 pm on 8 October 2019.

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Photo of Russell George Russell George Conservative 4:31, 8 October 2019

I thank the Minister for his statement this afternoon on two aspects with regard to concessionary travel. I wonder, Minister, if you can say a bit more about how you have considered some of the concerns that have been expressed to avoid the unintended consequences for pass holders such as carers and older people with health issues or disabilities. I'd also be grateful for further details of how you have considered the potential negative impacts on the viability of bus services if it results in lower bus use and the potential impact on the environment if we see a modal shift of people over 60 who then may go back to driving cars rather than using public transport. I notice this is something that the WLGA and others have pointed out as a potential consequence, so if you could say a little bit more about the research that you referred to in your statement that suggests that this won't be the case.

I'm pleased to hear that the issues about the concessionary fares website have been resolved. It's my understanding that there would be comprehensive support available through social services and libraries, alongside online applications. Now, as I understand it, many councils did not receive paper copies of the application forms for distribution to their libraries and community hubs until the week commencing 23 September, or even later in some cases. I wonder have you any information on why that was the case. It would be useful to know what the Welsh Government and Transport for Wales are doing to advertise the change. Will Transport for Wales be contacting people directly when they have not received an application and they know that people are eligible through their own database and information? As a result of the website failure, has any consideration been given to extending the period by which people can apply and, in any case, will there be a grace period after 1 January? If so, for how long will that grace period last?

I'd also like to ask you, Minister, to state how you are looking to ensure that the proposals don't exacerbate the cross-border difficulties experienced by those concessionary pass holders who have specific travel requirements that require cross-border travel. This is, of course, a particular concern for constituencies on borders—like myself and like yourself. I'm particularly thinking of healthcare, for example. Many of my constituents go across the border to access healthcare, into England. Finally, and as I said previously, young people tend to have the lowest wages, the highest car insurance and travel costs are a significant barrier to get to jobs and training opportunities. Will the Welsh Government consider at some point the idea of introducing a scheme, such as the one I've promoted myself in the past, to provide the same travel concessions to young people aged between 16 and 24?