I'm going to call group 1 amendments. The first group of amendments relates to the name of the National Assembly for Wales and the designation of its Members. The lead amendment in this group is amendment 162, and I call on Rhun ap Iorwerth to move and speak to the lead amendment and other amendments in the group. Rhun ap Iorwerth.

Amendment 162 (Rhun ap Iorwerth, supported by David Rees, Mike Hedges, Hefin David, Huw Irranca-Davies, John Griffiths) moved.

Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. A Bill of the kind that we are dealing with today requires collaboration, it requires compromise, it means that we must realise what our role as a Parliament is. It is a Bill that relates not to policy, not to any programme of government, and not even to today, but the work of nation building and the institutions that that nation needs for future generations.

The name of our Senedd is what we are discussing in this first amendment, and once again in moving the amendment I urge the Welsh Government particularly to reconsider their stance and to reconsider what their role should be in this context. The debate itself, I think, is clear now.

It's a pretty well-rehearsed argument now. Our Assembly has grown into a fully fledged Parliament over the past 20 years. This Bill is a means to reflect that, referring to this place in legislation as a Parliament for the first time. It's also about who can vote, who can stand for election, those mechanisms of public engagement with democracy, and the democratic process in Wales. But, we also have an opportunity at the same time to give our Parliament a name, a title. As we gather here in the Senedd—because that's what the building is already called—to discuss the Senedd and elections Bill, it strikes me as being infinitely sensible to christen our Parliament as the Senedd. Senedd Cymru is Wales's Parliament. 

We sing our national anthem in Welsh not to exclude anyone, but to include everyone, in a celebration of our Welsh nation in a way no-one else does theirs. Every country has an anthem, only one has 'Hen Wlad fy Nhadau'. Every nation has a Parliament, only one can have a Senedd. We've never thought, 'Let's do this as a party political point.' I hope Members can see in the way that I and my colleagues have reached out, trying to work across party divides on this, that that is the case. But, we've also been pretty convinced that that's what Wales wanted. My party commissioned a poll over the past few days—over 1,000 people, a major poll—and respondents were asked this:

Assembly Members will decide next week on a new name for the National Assembly for Wales. Which of the following would you prefer the Assembly to be called, 'Senedd' as the official name in Welsh and English, or 'Welsh Parliament' as the official name in English and 'Senedd' as the official name in Welsh? 

Just look at the responses. Excluding those who didn't know—just 20 per cent, by the way; it seems this is something that really has resonated with people—56 per cent wanted 'Senedd' and just 35 per cent wanted the bilingual version. So, whilst you're probably fed up of me banging on about this, why not listen to the people of Wales? And by the way, although this isn't a party political matter, an even bigger share of Labour supporters said they supported 'Senedd', in case that helps convince my colleagues on the Government benches. It's higher still amongst Liberal Democrats, by the way. 

Now, I appreciate that, in Government, there is the principle of collective responsibility. You rarely allow free votes, but this shouldn't be about Labour or Liberal Democrat policy in Government. This isn't about this Government. It's not about us. We're being trusted, as AMs, to decide what this institution's name will be for generations. And I'd like time, incidentally, to ask Members of our Youth Parliament what they think. And, given that poll I just mentioned, I've got a pretty good idea what they might say. But, First Minister, you said to me yesterday, when I raised this with you, and I quote:

'It's an issue on which many Assembly Members have strong views, and it's not a matter for the Government. This is an Assembly Bill, not a Government Bill, and different Assembly Members will take different views on the right answer to this question.'

But, and I address this to you all as Ministers, in saying on one hand that this is not a matter for Government and that different Members have different views, on the other hand, you've rejected my calls and others' to allow a free vote among your Ministers on this particular point of principle.

There are three voting blocks in this Assembly standing in the way of giving the institution the name that the people of Wales, it seems, want: one is the Brexit Party, another is the Conservative Party, the other is the Welsh Labour and Liberal Democrat Government. You have the casting vote. And despite saying that this is a matter for the Assembly, the result of your actions is to block a truly open vote. Yes, it's a free vote of Labour backbenchers, and it's been good to have the open debate that I've had with those Labour AMs. I'm grateful to those who have supported the amendment, both at the time of tabling and in the votes at both Stages 2 and 3 of deliberations on this Bill.

I have no choice now, as my party's whip, but to allow a free vote on the whole Bill at Stage 4, unless these amendments are passed today, because to some, the opportunity to give our Parliament its own unique Welsh title is paramount. These opportunities, symbolic but important, don't come along very often—once in a generation, perhaps. Yes, there are far more important things for us to discuss—health, education, poverty and good jobs—but we are the ones who have the honour of dealing with matters like this, and we very rarely do, but today is one of those days.

Passing this kind of Bill is about building consensus and compromise, and I've certainly been willing to compromise with Government, as seen in the tabling of the name 'Senedd Cymru', as opposed to just 'Senedd', after agreeing a form of words that Government could agree was in order. There were suggestions from Government originally, at other earlier stages, that having a Welsh-only name was somehow problematic in legal terms, but with a signal from Government that this amendment is in order, we know that's not the case, and we know from plenty of other legal opinion, too, that this is all legally possible, certainly. So, what we have is a Government using a collective casting vote on a matter of collective opinion opposing the Welsh-only name whilst being also of the opinion that this isn't a matter for Government. It just doesn't add up. And given that I know of individual Ministers who have been eager to support the Welsh-only name, it's even more frustrating.

I still hope that Government, collectively, can rethink today. I hope that other Members who have free votes can rethink today and come around to this decision. And that appeal goes out to Members of all parties, in all parts of this Senedd. But, to Welsh Government: be brave, be a Welsh Government, not just any Government. As we all can say, the Senedd is the Parliament of Wales. 

Take this opportunity. Support those who have contacted you from across parties and beyond parties to say that we must adopt the name 'Senedd' officially. Support Penrhyndeudraeth council, who went to the trouble to hold a vote yesterday evening to support the name 'Senedd'. I'm very grateful to them. Support the people of Wales, as they have spoken through the opinion poll I mentioned earlier, and have expressed their views in all corners of Wales. This is what they want. I am convinced of that; I think you are convinced of it, too. This is our Senedd, each and every one of us here in Wales.

I move my amendments in this group, which simply aim to change the designation in English of Assembly Members from 'Members of Senedd Cymru' to 'Members of the Welsh Parliament'. This was the aim of the amendments put forward by Alun Davies at Stage 2, which we in the Welsh Conservatives supported. I felt that it was appropriate that we once again put this option before Members at this stage in the legislative cycle. As the Bill stands now, we have the bilingual name 'Senedd Cymru' or 'Welsh Parliament', and I believe that we now need to address the designation to bring that consistency.

Now, referring to the speech that Rhun has just made, which was full of sincere feeling, I think it's a fairly fine judgment, I have to say. I don't as a matter of principle have great views on this, one way or the other, but I think what's convinced our group that we need in the legislation the bilingual form is the consultation to this Bill did produce an emphatic response—over 70 per cent—that by far the clearest option that was favoured was for a bilingual name, and that is why we believe this institution should carry that.

I have no doubt that 'Senedd' will be the Welsh name and the common name in English in all probability; it's certainly the one I've been using for years, frankly. So, I just wonder whether us having this rather tortured debate is awfully helpful, but I do accept that some people feel there is greater symbolism with the legislation just saying so in Welsh. But it's not an argument, I'm afraid, that convinces us. We feel that we should stick to the original position, which was developed at Stage 1 and in scrutiny of this Bill through an extensive consultation exercise.

Now, you're ingenious in introducing this poll. I think one way of getting around this inconvenient fact of what the consultation so clearly found is then to try and find some alternative evidence. What I would say is that it would have been helpful to have shared that poll with us more generally. I don't doubt your veracity, but opinion polls, as we may well find out during the course of this campaign, are not always what they appear because of the terms in which the questions are put. But in any event, we need to respect the full scrutiny process and what that produced. [Interruption.] I will give way.

Very quickly, I can certainly give an assurance to the Member that I would be more than happy to share the details of that poll at a further Report Stage, if that's necessary.

Well, I dare say that that's the very least you need to do now, but it doesn't give us a chance at this stage—the last stage, in effect, unless we have an extraordinary process and bring in a Report Stage—to interrogate the data. That's what I mean.

But I do think we've already found the compromise, Rhun, I have to say, and that is for the legislation to state very clearly that we are both 'Senedd Cymru' and 'Welsh Parliament', the designations to follow, and then we'll just let the natural preference of the people of Wales take its course, and that I'm sure will reflect what most of us already do in referring to this institution as the 'Senedd'. Thank you.

I move the amendments in my name, amendments 127 to 159 in this group. These are largely technical amendments to ensure consistency throughout the legislation, consistent with the decision taken by the National Assembly at Stage 2 proceedings.

I gave an undertaking at that time, Dirprwy Lywydd, to ensure consistency throughout the Bill to ensure that there were no parts of the Bill that did not appear consistent with each other. The Assembly's decision was that the institution should be known as 'Senedd Cymru' or the 'Welsh Parliament', and that Members should be known as 'Members of the Senedd' or 'Aelodau o'r Senedd'. All but one of my amendments make consequential changes to give effect to those decisions, and to ensure consistency.

The odd one out is amendment 149. It's a technical amendment connected to changing the Assembly's name. It amends section 150A of the Government of Wales Act 2006, to ensure that, unless the context requires otherwise, a reference to 'Senedd Cymru', the 'Senedd Commission' or 'Acts of Senedd Cymru' in any legislation or any other document is to be read as including a reference to the previous name, that is the 'National Assembly for Wales', the 'National Assembly for Wales Commission' or 'Acts of the National Assembly for Wales'. This will avoid the need for future legislation to mention the old names where that legislation is referring to things done before as well as after the name change. Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd.

I speak as Plaid Cymru spokesperson on the Welsh language. It would be wonderful if we, the Members of the fifth Assembly, could state clearly today that 'Senedd Cymru' should be the name of our national Senedd, and that the term 'Senedd Cymru' should be used from here on in. If we fail to do so, then I believe that we will miss a historic opportunity, and we will be making a mistake, and that that mistake will live with us for years to come.

It is entirely right that we should be ambitious for the Welsh language and it is important that we convey a clear message that the Welsh language belongs to everyone in Wales, that the Welsh language belongs to everyone and that the word 'Senedd' belongs to everyone, be they speaking Welsh on a daily basis or whether they live their lives through the medium of English. The word 'Senedd' would quickly win its place in the vocabulary of everyone in Wales, just as 'paned', 'cwtsh', 'twp', 'nain' and 'hiraeth', and so on, have done already.

I was reminded recently, whilst canvassing in Bangor, of how the Welsh language adorns the English language in an entirely natural way. One of the wonderful words of Bangor is 'moider'—to talk rubbish. There aren't many people who are familiar with the word 'moider', perhaps, which is used through the medium of English—'Don't moider me.' That's what people say. It's a word that comes originally from the Welsh language. It comes from the word 'mwydro', and that is an entirely natural example of the Welsh language transferring into the English language and becoming a natural part of daily conversations in Wales. And the word 'Senedd' would very soon be an entirely natural part of conversations about our national institution. It is a name that is unique on a global level. It highlights the fact that we are a unique country and unique people—people who are proud of their unique language and use a word taken from that unique language on our uniquely Welsh institution. It would place us on the international stage and would become part of the Welsh brand.

And I do think that being unique in a world that is becoming more and more uniform is very important. Identity is important to people across the world and is becoming more and more important, particularly for younger people, and in Wales we are fortunate—we have a modern and exciting Welsh identity. We can express that identity through two languages. We express it through sport, the arts, through our values and through our national institutions, which are also unique. And why not also express it by calling our national Parliament 'Senedd Cymru'? It's a Senedd for everyone, and everyone would call us by the name 'Senedd'.

Just three very quick points. Isn't it best to give it a name it's going to be called? The word 'Senedd' is the word that's going to be used. Does any person in here believe that Senedd.tv is going to be called 'Senedd Cymru Welsh Parliament tv', or do you think it's going to stay as Senedd.tv?

In terms of bilingualism in Wales, I've never seen the word 'eisteddfod' ever translated. People use the word 'eisteddfod' although it happens to be a Welsh word. Can I correct Siân Gwenllian slightly? We might know 'nain' in north Wales; we know 'mam-gu' in south Wales. [Laughter.]

Senedd is to Wales what Tynwald is to the Isle of Man. It's a unique word. 'Tynwald' is a Norse word, 'Senedd' is a Welsh word, but it's a word that is unique. And I just think it keeps it simple that we give it a name that people are going to use. Otherwise, we'll have a name that is official and a name that people use, and I don't think that's going to be of benefit to anybody.

The only other plea is that whatever gets passed at the first stage, we keep consistency when we go through. So, if Carwyn Jones's or Rhun ap Iorwerth's amendments go through, then we need to make sure that we get consistency as we go through, so that it actually makes sense when the Bill is completed.

Thank you. Can I call on the Counsel General?

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. On the question of the naming, I don't wish to detain Members for long on this point. The Government is content with the Bill as it was amended at Stage 2, subject to the amendments that Carwyn Jones and I have tabled for consistency, and we, of course, support those amendments.

I would also wish to say this: the matter of the name is, of course, one that divides opinion. It is the sort of thing on which it is possible for reasonable people of goodwill, and often of shared values, to take a different view. Perhaps most people observing these proceedings will reflect—and I'm sure that we would all agree with this—that this is not the provision in the Bill that is likely to make most difference to the lives of the people of Wales. I think that it's important to approach that question in light of those facts.

May I respond to a few of the points that have been made—[Interruption.]—in contributions thus far? 

Very briefly on that point, you say that people can have different views on this, but not within the Government, it would seem.

Thank you for that question. I intend to deal with that in due course, and comments that have been made so far.

It was mentioned that there is a legal issue. I should say that the Welsh Government has not contended that there is a legal barrier to a Welsh-only name, and I am very grateful to Professor Keith Bush, in the e-mails shared with Members, for his acknowledgement of that. But there are good reasons why the accessibility of the law supports a name in Welsh and in English. Indeed, I have provided my view in discussions with Rhun ap Iorwerth about how to make sure that the amendments being proposed at Stage 3 are legally operable, should they pass.

I am aware of the view that having an English name as well as a Welsh name for this institution is felt by some to undermine the use of the term 'Senedd', and also to undermine the use of the Welsh language. I would simply observe that the institution currently has a statutory name in Welsh and in English now—neither of which have prevented the growing use of the term 'Senedd'. With the best will in the world, I'm not persuaded that the challenge we have set ourselves of achieving a million Welsh speakers by 2050 will be impacted by the existence of a statutory term in English for this institution in future, because we have statutory terms in both languages at the moment. As the First Minister said yesterday, the Government took a view during Stage 2 that we as bilingual nation ought to have a bilingual name for the institution.

To respond to the point the Rhun made in his contribution, the Government has reached a view on how it will vote together, very much informed by discussion by Members on our benches, both Government Members or backbench Members. We did not apply a whip on this question beyond the front bench at Stage 2, and we won't do that at Stage 3. Other parties, of course, will have reached their own views on whether to apply a whip or not, and some of our Members, as Rhun has acknowledged, have indeed supported this proposed amendment.

The only Government amendment in this group is number 81, and this amendment makes consequential changes to the Legislation (Wales) Act 2019. And in light of what I've just said, I hope Members will support the amendments in the name of Carwyn Jones and myself and withhold support for the other amendments.

Thank you. Can I now call on the Llywydd?

Thank you, Deputy Presiding officer. And to start, I would like to remind Members that I will not be voting on the amendments that we are debating today. Standing Order 6.20 states that the Presiding Officer or Deputy may vote in Plenary proceedings only for the exercise of a casting vote, and in the circumstance provided for by Standing Order 6.21 with regard to needing a two thirds majority for legislation. So, I will be able to vote in Stage 4 of this Bill, as will the Deputy Presiding Officer.

With regard to the name of the legislature, Members will remember that I had outlined in Stage 2 how the name 'Senedd' is already a familiar term across Wales, because it is used widely to refer to the home of Welsh democracy. Using the name 'Senedd' alone would reflect the Assembly's strong commitment to promoting the status and use of the Welsh language and normalising its use. That's my personal opinion, and it's my opinion as the Member responsible for introducing this legislation, but, as I already have said, it's the Members here today who should decide what the new name of this place should be. If amendments 161 and 162 from Rhun ap Iorwerth, to call our national legislature by a single name, 'Senedd Cymru', pass or not, the Bill will achieve the ambition shared by Members in 2016 to change the name of this place to reflect its constitutional status as a national legislative Parliament.

With regard to the name of Members, when I introduced the Bill I proposed the titles 'Aelodau o'r Senedd / Members of the Senedd'. The amendments introduced by Carwyn Jones and David Melding today propose different titles for Members, and both sets of amendments would be useful in solving the inconsistency in the Bill at the moment, and would ensure that there would be a clear result at the end of this Bill's progress, to respond to the point that Mike Hedges made in his contribution a little earlier.

Carwyn Jones's amendments propose the consistent use of the titles 'Members of the Senedd' and 'Aelodau o'r Senedd'—those were the titles proposed in the Bill on introduction. As I said at Stage 2, I feel there is a simplicity to these titles and that is very attractive in terms of the titles for us as Members. We're voting today on a name that will stand the test of time; a name that will be incorporated in the hearts and minds of the people of Wales in time, and the choice facing Members, therefore, is a simple one: 'Members of the Senedd', or 'Aelodau o'r Senedd' in Welsh, or 'Aelodau Senedd Cymru', 'Member of the Welsh Parliament' in English, as put forward by David Melding. Whichever option is chosen today, that will be the title for the final vote in Stage 4, and that will be consistent throughout the Bill.

Thank you. Can I call on Rhun ap Iorwerth to reply to the debate?

Thank you very much. I do regret the fact that there has been no shift within Government in light of the arguments that we have put forward. Certainly, I am not at all convinced as to why the Government couldn't have given a free vote to its own members. There are examples when members of this Government have been allowed to disagree on other issues and I simply can't understand why you couldn't have allowed that freedom in this context, particularly in light of the words spoken to me by the First Minister in this Chamber some 28 hours ago, that this is not a matter for Government but a matter for the Senedd. Each of you, as members of the Government, are Members of this Senedd, and with the honour of making a decision on this institution for generations to come.

I have no doubt that 'Senedd' will be the widely used term to describe this institution, as David Melding has said. I am confident that we will vote today to describe ourselves as 'Aelodau o'r Senedd / Members of the Senedd'. I think the fact that we have pushed so hard on this means that we have won that argument and that by default, 'Senedd' will be the name of this institution. What I can't quite work out—and I may be being stupid here, but, if we're going to call ourselves 'Members of the Senedd', if everyone is going to call the institution 'Senedd', why is the legislation the one place that doesn't give it the name 'Senedd'? It makes no kind of sense whatsoever to me. I do have an idea for a bilingual name for this institution, a name in Welsh and in English: that is 'Senedd'. The people of Wales understand that, and the Government has lost an opportunity here to show that it is serious about creating a country that is proud of its heritage and confident in its future.

Thank you. The question is that amendment 162 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Therefore, we will proceed to a vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. For the motion 16, no abstentions, 39 against. Therefore, amendment 162 is not agreed to.

Amendment 162: For: 16, Against: 39, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been rejected

Carwyn Jones, amendment 127. Carwyn Jones, amendment 127.

Amendment 127 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally, Deputy Presiding Officer.

Thank you. If amendment 127 is agreed to, amendment 2 will fall. The question is that amendment 127 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Therefore, we will proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 37, no abstentions, 18 against. Therefore, amendment 127 is agreed to and amendment 2 falls.

Amendment 127: For: 37, Against: 18, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Amendment 2 fell.

Carwyn Jones, amendment 128.

Amendment 128 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally, Deputy Presiding Officer.

Thank you. The question is amendment 128 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 128 is agreed to in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

David Melding, amendment 44.

Not moved.

Not moved. Thank you.

Amendment 44 (David Melding) not moved.

Carwyn Jones, amendment 147.

Amendment 147 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally, Deputy Presiding Officer.

Thank you. The question is that amendment 147 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Okay, so we proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 41, no abstentions, 14 against. Therefore, amendment 147 is agreed.

Amendment 147: For: 41, Against: 14, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Carwyn Jones, amendment 148.

Amendment 148 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

The question is that amendment 148 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 148 is agreed to in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Carwyn Jones, amendment 149.

Amendment 149 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

Thank you. As there are amendments to amendment 149, these will be disposed of first. Rhun ap Iorwerth, amendment 149A.

Amendment 149A (Rhun ap Iorwerth) moved.

Formally.

Thank you. The question is that amendment 149A be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Therefore, we will proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 11, no abstentions, 44 against. Therefore, amendment 149A is not agreed.

Amendment 149A: For: 11, Against: 44, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been rejected

I propose that amendments 149B, 149C and 149D, which appear consecutively on the marshalled list, are disposed of en bloc, given their nature. Does any Member object to the votes being grouped? No. Darren Millar, amendments 149B to 149D.

Amendments 149B, 149C and 149D (Darren Millar) moved.

I move.

Thank you. The question is that amendments 149B to 149D be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Object. Therefore, we'll proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendments 18, no abstentions, 37 against. Therefore, the amendments are not agreed.

Amendments 149B, 149C and 149D: For: 18, Against: 37, Abstain: 0

Amendments have been rejected

The question is that amendment 149 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Object. Therefore, we proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 33, no abstentions, 21 against. Therefore, amendment 149 is agreed.

Amendment 149: For: 33, Against: 21, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

David Melding, amendment 45.

Not moved.

Not moved. Thank you.

Amendment 45 (David Melding) not moved.

Carwyn Jones, amendment 150.

Amendment 150 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

Thank you. The question is that amendment 150 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Okay. So, we proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 41, one abstention, 13 against. Therefore, amendment 150 is agreed.

Amendment 150: For: 41, Against: 13, Abstain: 1

Amendment has been agreed

David Melding, amendment 46.

Not moved.

Not moved. Thank you.

Amendment 46 (David Melding) not moved.

 Carwyn Jones, amendment 151.

Amendment 151 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

The question is that amendment 151 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Therefore, we proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 40, no abstentions, 14 against. Therefore, the amendment is agreed.

Amendment 151: For: 40, Against: 14, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

David Melding, amendment 47.

Not moved.

Thank you.

Amendment 47 (David Melding) not moved.

Carwyn Jones, amendment 152.

Amendment 152 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

Thank you. The question is that amendment 152 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Therefore, we will proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 41, no abstentions, 14 against. Therefore, the amendment is agreed.

Amendment 152: For: 41, Against: 14, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Carwyn Jones, amendment 153.

Amendment 153 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

Thank you. As there are amendments to amendment 153, these will be disposed of first. I propose that amendments 153A, 153B and 153C, which again appear consecutively on the marshalled list, are disposed of en bloc. Does any Member object to the votes being grouped? No. That's good. Darren Millar, amendments 153A to 153C.

Amendments 153A, 153B and 153C (Darren Millar) moved.

I move.

Thank you. The question is that amendments 153A to 153C be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Object. Therefore, we proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendments 18, no abstentions, 37 against. Therefore, the amendments are lost.

Amendments 153A, 153B and 153C: For: 18, Against: 37, Abstain: 0

Amendments have been rejected

So, now we go to a vote on amendment 153. Does any Member object to amendment 153? [Objection.] Thank you. We go to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the motion 42, no abstentions, 13 against. 

Amendment 153: For: 42, Against: 13, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Sorry, I should have mentioned amendment 48, David Melding.

Not moved.

Not moved. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Amendment 48 fell.

Carwyn Jones, amendment 154.

Amendment 154 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

Thank you. Again, there are amendments to amendment 154, so we'll dispose of those first. I propose again that amendments 154A, 154B and 154C, which appear consecutively on the marshalled list, be disposed of en bloc. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, Darren Millar, amendments 154A to 154C.

Amendments 154A, 154B and 154C (Darren Millar) moved.

I move.

The question is that amendments 154A to 154C be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Object. Therefore, we proceed to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendments 18, no abstentions, 36 against. Therefore, the amendments are not agreed.

Amendments 154A, 154B and 154C: For: 18, Against: 36, Abstain: 0

Amendments have been rejected

We now move to a vote on amendment 154. If amendment 154 is agreed to, amendments 49, 50 and 51 fall. So, the question is that amendment 154 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Okay. We move to an electronic vote. And open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 40, no abstentions, 14 against. Therefore, the amendment is agreed.

Amendment 154: For: 40, Against: 14, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Amendments 49, 50 and 51 fell.

David Melding, amendment 52.

Not moved.

Not moved. Thank you.

Amendment 52 (David Melding) not moved.

Carwyn Jones, amendment 155.

Amendment 155 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

Thank you. The question is that amendment 155 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Therefore, we move to an electronic vote, and open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 41, no abstentions, 14 against. Therefore, the amendment is agreed.

Amendment 155: For: 41, Against: 14, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Carwyn Jones, amendment 156.

Amendment 156 (Carwyn Jones) moved.

Formally.

Thank you. If amendment 156 is agreed to, amendments 53 and 54 will fall. The question is that amendment 156 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Therefore, we proceed to an electronic vote, and open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 41, no abstentions, 14 against. Therefore, amendment 156 is agreed to and amendments 53 and 54 will fall.

Amendment 156: For: 41, Against: 14, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Amendments 53 and 54 fell.

Counsel General, amendment 81.

Amendment 81 (Jeremy Miles) moved.

Formally.

Thank you, and as there are amendments to amendments 81, those amendments will be disposed of first.

David Melding, amendment 81A.

Amendment 81A (David Melding) moved.

I move.

Moved. Thank you. The question is that amendment 81A be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Object. Therefore, we proceed to an electronic vote, and open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 18, no abstentions, 37 against. Therefore, the amendment is not agreed.

Amendment 81A: For: 18, Against: 37, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been rejected

David Melding, amendment 81B.

Amendment 81B (David Melding) moved.

Moved.

Moved. The question is that amendment 81B be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Object. Therefore, we proceed to an electronic vote, and open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 18, no abstentions, 37 against. Therefore, amendment 81B is not agreed.

Amendment 81B: For: 18, Against: 37, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been rejected

The question is that amendment 81 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 81 is agreed in accordance with Standing Orders.

Amendment agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.