8. Plaid Cymru Debate: Rolling Stock Strategy

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:41 pm on 20 November 2019.

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Photo of Rhun ap Iorwerth Rhun ap Iorwerth Plaid Cymru 5:41, 20 November 2019

(Translated)

So, points have been made about the south-east particularly. Others have been in touch with me from outside the Chamber talking about the need to look at the western Valleys too—the Neath, Swansea, Dulais valley areas, where much more needs to be done to strengthen our railways to take people away from their cars. There are concerns too in north and mid Wales, of course.

But we are talking here about one specific issue, namely why are we in this position where we still haven't been given dispensation to use these trains after the end of the year? I hear the Minister's comments, along with Members on his backbenches, that they expect an announcement by the UK Government's Department for Transport soon, but we haven't had that as of yet. This is about accountability, holding the Government's feet to the fire, as it were, to ensure that everything is done to deliver on this. And the fundamental question that hasn't been answered for me is: why wasn't there an alternative plan in place? Why wasn't there a plan B in case there was a problem with the delivery of these new trains? Because that's the situation here. Nobody is suggesting, as far as I know, that we are withdrawing these trains from service, as some have suggested. No—unfortunately, we are seeking dispensation to continue using them after the end of the year. That's what we are doing, and we are hugely concerned that that dispensation hasn't been given to date, and the problem as I see it is that the Welsh Government has failed to request that dispensation in good time, and that's why we're facing this ongoing uncertainty.

We know that promises have not been adhered to, and I'm sure that I am accurately quoting you, Hefin David, when I say that I agree with you that the Minister had overpromised. And overpromising and underdelivery is a very serious issue, because it does undermine people's confidence in what the Government is doing. I know that the Minister is very enthusiastic for the new plans for the railways, but overpromising and failing to deliver does undermine people's confidence.