Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:43 pm on 20 November 2019.
I'm trying to be constructive in this debate and build an argument for why we're going to see transformation. I didn't use the word 'overpromising'. What I said was that the initial expectations for the service were raised high, so that people expected an immediate transformation. That clearly was never the plan. So, there was never an overpromise, but expectations for the service were higher than may be realistic, and I think that's what you're politically playing on today.