Okay, well I take the two words—there was overpromising, it was oversold. I agree, there was an over-promise on what could be delivered and you said that there was not enough delivery on that. We'll get together and we'll go through the Cofnod together and review what you said in your speech, but I'm quite confident in the notes that I've written here.

But this is about accountability. It's about holding the Government to account and making sure that now it takes action to make sure that we don't have to take these Pacers out of service at the end of the year, which, as we know, would mean transport chaos, especially in the south-east of Wales, but also in other parts of Wales too.