Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:20 pm on 8 January 2020.
Now, as the Chair said in her opening remarks, any recommendations we make will be most effective if they're rooted in broad-based political and public support. So, the public engagement at this stage and throughout is crucial, but so, I have to say, is the political engagement. So, my second question to our Chair is to ask whether and how she'll continue to engage with all political parties in the Senedd, but also those significant other political entities in Wales who are not represented here, so that their views are also fed in, but so that they can also see and engage with the evidence that we hear. In particular—it has been mentioned already—I seek the Chair's confirmation that a seat does indeed remain at the committee table for all the major political parties represented here, and we would want to see that single empty blue seat be occupied by an able, meaningful and insightful Member from the benches directly opposite from me here, and that she will continue, on behalf of the committee, as I will personally, to encourage that seat to be filled, so that we can all engage with the evidence together, regardless of our individual or our party political standpoints. That surely is the most basic task we have as legislators and policymakers—to wrestle with these difficult questions together.
I genuinely am missing the voice and the contribution of colleagues from directly across the floor on this committee, and I'm sure that that party, who, under Disraeli and under Gladstone, wrestled with difficulty, but I have to say with confidence as well, with things such as the Irish question, as extending the franchise, and major parliamentary reform in the nineteenth century, is more than able and confident, I have to say—. I look at individuals across from me now, any one of those Members would be able to engage on this little, time-limited committee on electoral reform. [Interruption.] I'm doing my best to encourage this, Presiding Officer. They'd be more than able, from that party, to engage with this time-limited little committee here on electoral reform in the twenty-first century.
Could I also ask the Chair to expand a little on the schedule, the timescale, of this, in effect, task and finish committee? Ultimately, it's going to be in the hands of all Senedd Members here to make any final decisions on electoral reform, informed by the public and their own parties, but also informed by the work of this committee. So, can she lay out her broad thinking, as Chair of the committee, on when our recommendations must emerge to enable this Senedd to productively consider them, and whether she'll be discussing with the Presiding Officer, Welsh Government and party leaders of all parties how this timetable enables any reform proposals that may be brought forward, if the evidence supports it and if it's felt that proposals can garner the support of the Senedd, in the timescale that allows this or future Senedd gatherings to do the necessary preparations, the necessary legislation, if appropriate, and bring it forward?
Finally, could I ask the Chair for her reflections on some of the evidence that we've heard already? She touched on it a moment ago—on the implications for the performance and the effectiveness of this Senedd and on our working methods and working week, or on what we might have to choose not to do with our existing powers, let alone powers that we are not using at the moment, or any future powers, if we choose not to undertake further reform that could increase the capacity and the diversity of representation to fully reflect this, our nation, our Senedd of Wales. We've already heard evidence on this and it was fascinating to hear what those organisations that regularly engage with us and lobby us on important matters of health and the environment and so many other things, thought would be the implications of choosing not to proceed with some form of electoral reform that would increase the capacity and diversity of this place. Would she care to expand on that?