Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:59 pm on 25 February 2020.
I thank Darren Millar for his questions and for the constructive way in which he has put them. I think in relation both to secondary legislation and the discussion around common frameworks—both of which he touched on, obviously, in his question—those have been, probably of all the areas of engagement, the ones where relationships have been most productive, and we have always sought as a Government to point to those as examples of how when all the Governments in the UK engage together constructively, as we have always sought to do on these benches, then steps forward can be taken. He will know from our previous exchanges that we have not always persuaded the UK Government of that approach, which is a matter of regret.
Nevertheless, on the question of a compendium of powers, I think the availability of the powers that need to be deployed to deal with individual aspects of keeping pace, if I can just put it in that way, will of course depend on the nature of the legislation that is brought forward. Some of those powers we already have through a combination of the European withdrawal Act and the EU withdrawal agreement Act. Some of them we have under the already existing devolution settlement, and then there'll be set of future analyses required as and when legislation comes through to ascertain whether the capacity to keep pace with those fall within the powers that we already have, perhaps through the devolution settlement. Exactly what they are at this point we can't assess, because those decisions are to be taken in the future.
There's a category of secondary legislation that will stem from Bills being passed by the UK Parliament in the context of leaving the European Union. Again, some of those we can identify at this point, but many of them we can't. So, as we stand here today, I'm sadly not in a position to say to you that we understand the full extent of that, because the decisions that govern that analysis haven't yet been made. We would like to be in a position of much greater certainty, but that, obviously, is outside our control.
You asked specifically about the question of common frameworks. It is still our objective to get to a position by the end of this year where we've made significant progress in relation to those. There is a monthly, I believe, formal programme board between officials that keeps that under review. We are very clear that we want to be in a position, as soon as we can reach agreement, to put those into a position where they can be scrutinised by stakeholders and by legislatures across the UK, and we continue to press for progress in relation to that.
In relation to primary legislation, as we stand here today, we don't foresee specific items coming forward but, again, that depends on what is a sadly very fluid and very changing set of circumstances that, for reasons that we don't need to rehearse here again today, are certainly beyond our control as a Government. I think we would all regret the fact that there remains a significant degree of uncertainty in that landscape.