14. Debate: Legislative Consent Motion on the Coronavirus Bill

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 1:20 pm on 24 March 2020.

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Photo of Siân Gwenllian Siân Gwenllian Plaid Cymru 1:20, 24 March 2020

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May I say first of all that I identify entirely with the comments made by Dawn Bowden? It is hugely important that we do share our concerns and it’s important that we express that emotion that we are bound to feel. That is so important at a time such as this. So, I thank you for sharing some of your concerns with us today, but we will get through this. We will get through this together—that is certainly possible.

We, as a party, have been working constructively with the UK Government and the Welsh Government on this legislation in order to ensure that the Government does have the powers to keep us safe. This legislation should lead to more staff being available in the NHS and in social care. It should make volunteering easier, put a stop to groups of people getting together, enable more support to be provided to businesses and give dignity to those who lose loved ones. But, of course, as others have already said, it’s important that these powers should only be used if entirely necessary, and we do need full scrutiny of the use of these powers, too.

I do agree entirely with the concerns expressed on the two-year period, and my colleagues in Westminster have been calling for this six-monthly review. I do believe that assessing the impact of the powers contained within this Bill, the impacts on Wales—be they powers held here in Wales or powers that are not devolved to us as a Parliament—it is important that we assess the impact of any powers that come into force and, as Alun Davies said, there should be regular reports and opportunities here for us to scrutinise this in an entirely constructive manner in order to ensure that everything is working appropriately.

It is important to note, I think, that the clauses in the Bill related to devolved issues do mean that the Welsh Government can decide not to make use of those clauses. That is to say that it could decide not to turn on the switch on those powers. I do think that that’s important. It does show respect to our Senedd here.

Just very briefly, some of the issues that do concern me. Social care: by relaxing the requirements on local government in terms of social care, there is a risk that this could lead to an unacceptable level of care, which could lead to unnecessary deaths. We do need to ensure that only if the pressures become extreme we would actually make use of those powers. On DBS checks, I agree entirely with the comments made by Suzy Davies. We do need to take care in hastening those checks in order to allow more volunteers to help, but we must also bear in mind what the purposes of those checks are, namely to safeguard the most vulnerable people and children amongst us.

Now, with schools, I agree entirely that schools need to remain open, but it can place huge stress on teachers, and the teaching unions do have concerns about the health of their members although, of course, the provision for the children of key workers is entirely essential.

On mental health, the Bill will allow far-reaching changes to mental health legislation, which could mean that people could be held in a unit or a hospital for a lot longer than they currently would be.

To conclude, Deputy Presiding Officer: women. Women, generally speaking, care for children and older relatives and even to this day that hasn’t changed. This unpaid work will increase over the next few weeks and months, and we do need to respect that work and that contribution. Women, including pregnant women and those on maternity leave shouldn’t be placed at a disadvantage in their careers by following the guidance put down.

You will know that our party has a long and honourable history of supporting and promoting the rights of our people but, temporarily, we do need this legislation. We have no option, and therefore we will not oppose the motion before us today. Thank you.