Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:16 pm on 20 May 2020.
Llywydd, I thank Carwyn Jones for that. I agree with him that you can't have a rule for every occasion, and each of us, as citizens, have to make some judgments about our own conduct, and judgments within the ambit of the rules as laid down. So, further guidance—we can certainly look at that, but this afternoon, I'm very happy to say to people in Wales that there are only three questions they need to ask themselves: are they going out to exercise? If it's exercise, then they've passed the first hurdle. Is it local? And if it's local, they've passed the second hurdle. And is that exercise capable of being organised in a way that respects social distancing? And if they can say 'yes' to those three questions, then they've gone a long way, I think, to making the sort of judgment that they need to make as to whether or not what they propose is within the rules as we've agreed them here in Wales.