Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:07 pm on 9 November 2021.
It's not an inconvenience for me because it guarantees that people who are in exactly that position can attend these events and activities on the same basis as you and me, and that is why equality of liberty is so important in this debate.
And the final point I'll make is this: it might not always appear on social media, but let me say this, these passes are actually very popular. They're very popular. I certainly have people writing to me, e-mailing me saying that this is the end of our democracy, this is the end of our society, that this is the end of the society that we've known in its current form because of the imposition of this. They make ludicrous comparisons with events of the middle part of the last century and the rest of it. But, let me tell you now, the majority of people, both in my constituency and I would guess in Clwyd West as well, will be supporting this, will be wanting to see this, because they understand the argument that your liberty is my liberty is everybody's liberty. And the equality and indivisibility of liberty is something that nobody here should be arguing against. Thank you.