7. Statement by the Minister for Climate Change: Building Safety

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:55 pm on 14 December 2021.

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I, like Mike Hedges also, sent out your statement to many campaigners here in Cardiff Bay, and the responses I've had have all welcomed this statement by you. They're grateful that you've once again reiterated that leaseholders will not be picking up the bill. I'm grateful to you for mentioning that there will be some further technical assistance for leaseholders to navigate this process.

I appreciate you mentioned in response to Mabon ap Gwynfor that nobody needs to remind you of the time that has passed since Grenfell, but that is what residents mention all the time—time is a critical factor for them. I look forward to working with you, Minister, and with the residents, to ensure that there will be fit-for-purpose support available as soon as possible, because that's what they desperately need to know—when they'll be able to receive assistance from the fund.

I also look forward to working with Janet Finch-Saunders, Peter Fox, and I know Andrew R.T. Davies has been very vocal about this in the past—those within the Conservative Party—to ensure proper support from the UK Government. This is far too important to be turned into political ping-pong. We have seen, haven't we, recently, the tragic consequences in the English channel when two Governments do not work together effectively. Let that be a warning for us for cladding, let that be a warning for us for coal tips. These are dangerous matters that should not be turned into political ping-pong. So, I look forward to working with those on the Conservative benches to lobby the UK Government for proper support.

Naturally, Minister, I welcome your promise of support for a small number of leaseholders who are struggling with significant financial hardship. I'm glad that support has been given to people whose long-term futures are blighted by potential bankruptcy, eviction and potential homelessness. Yet there are many others, as you mentioned in response to one of the contributions, who are stranded—as you mentioned, growing families, pensioners who want to move down to the ground floor, people suffering severely with mental health issues. Only recently, Minister, I had an e-mail about a leaseholder who had tragically killed himself due to the mental strain he was suffering. As far as I'm aware, he didn't face bankruptcy, eviction or homelessness, but still could not see any other way out. I'm glad that you said in your response to Mabon ap Gwynfor that you will take a broad view about those who are struggling, who have had significant financial hardship.

Leaseholders remain concerned about being burdened with additional regulatory costs associated with any future building safety regime. I hope that's been taken into account with your plans, Minister, and that you can guarantee that residents will not face any additional cost due to work on building safety. The building safety Bill that you mentioned will mean that residents will still have to foot the bill, and I don't think the extension of the limitation period you also mentioned in your statement will probably make any real difference to the vast majority of those affected. They will still be unable to financially take on these large developers. As Mike Hedges mentioned, a lot of these developers are not in business anymore. Some were in fact created specifically to build a development, and then were liquidated and were wound up.

The Minister finished her statement strongly, saying that developers, and those responsible for those building defects, must step up and do more to resolve this crisis. I can't agree more, Minister. How will you get them to step up? Will they be called out? Will they be named and shamed, and will Government and local government use their significant procurement power to ensure that the developments that do not step up, the developments that don't take responsibility for this terrible scandal, will no longer win public sector contracts or support? Diolch yn fawr.