Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:12 pm on 15 December 2021.
To confirm, the Welsh Conservative group will be supporting the motion before us today, and I speak in this debate today as someone who sits on the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee. In that regard, can I thank the Chair for his opening statement, but also for his leadership of the committee? It's great working with you, Huw. Inter-governmental and inter-institutional relations are often complex and confusing things. The sheer number of the structures that are in place and the nature of the discussions that are held within them can make things difficult to follow, even for us here in the Chamber, never mind for members of the public. Adding things like Brexit, the pandemic and the sheer amount of agreements and legislation can sometimes leave this place feeling as if it's being bypassed at times, not intentionally, but sometimes it's almost like we are chasing our tail a little bit.
And this is why I believe that this agreement between the Welsh Parliament and the Welsh Government is important. This Parliament has always held scrutiny and accountability in high regard, and this agreement is a step forward in the right direction. Whilst ensuring that the necessary confidentiality arrangements are in place, it ensures that the Welsh Ministers are required to notify this place when devolved competencies are exercised by UK Ministers. This enables us to scrutinise decisions and improves Government transparency.
What I do want to say, however, is that we have to be more mindful of how we approach debates about inter-governmental relations. I know things can be difficult and can get rather fraught, and there are things by all Governments that can be done better. But, too often, we can get caught up in politics and rhetoric, rather than how we can work together to achieve our common goals, and there are more of these goals than what some in this Chamber perhaps believe. Recovering from the pandemic should be at the forefront of everything that Governments of all colours should be focusing on, and it's right that we in Wales look to engage constructively with partners from across the UK, and that this place supports and challenges this working.
Llywydd, I close my contribution by welcoming the opportunity for the debate this afternoon, and I thank once again the Chair for bringing it forward. Thank you.