9. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Building Safety Act 2022

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:40 pm on 16 November 2022.

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Photo of Mabon ap Gwynfor Mabon ap Gwynfor Plaid Cymru 5:40, 16 November 2022

I'd like to thank Janet Finch-Saunders for presenting this motion today. Let's remind ourselves why we're still debating this issue today, nearly five and a half years after the terrible tragedy at Grenfell. The damning fact is that the current building safety system is a system that has allowed a culture of cutting corners at the expense of public safety.

I'll never forget seeing that tragedy at Grenfell Tower unfold back in 2017. In the early hours of 14 June, a fire began burning through Grenfell Tower, a 24-storey residential block in west London. Seventy-one people died as a result of that fire. Others died months later as a result of smoke inhalation. But many people—those who escaped the fire, the families of the dead, those who witnessed this tragedy—still live with horrific physical and mental scars and continue to suffer today.

Since the disaster, a large number of residential buildings in this disunited kingdom, including several in Wales, have been found to have unsafe flammable cladding while some have other fire safety deficiencies such as poor compartments and firebreaks to prevent the spread of fires within buildings. People are afraid, and people have endured this fear for over five years. Five years without action.

It's been 18 months since the election, a year and a half without action here in Wales. Leaseholders and tenants have been trapped in properties from which they can't move, their quality of life and mental health have deteriorated, and it's high time we responded to this nightmare scenario urgently through a radical reform programme and further financial support.

As my party spokesman on housing and planning, I'd like to take a moment to welcome the co-operation agreement between Plaid Cymru and the Labour Government. The agreement contains a range of commitments, including commitments to radically reform the existing building safety system and to introduce the second phase of the Welsh building safety fund. I'm glad that we're working together on this vital issue and moving some of the agenda forward.

No-one can truly argue against the sentiment behind the motion today. We all agree that we need to protect residents, and today the Welsh Conservatives are pushing for the incorporation of sections 116 to 125 of the Building Safety Act, as we heard just now from Janet Finch-Saunders, into Welsh law. But I must express a concern around this. Sections 116 to 125 provide leaseholders with the option to take legal action against a developer who is not remediating fire safety defects, but this means that they'd be required to pay legal fees. So, do the Tories think leaseholders should have to pay for issues that aren't their fault?

There's also a fundamental misunderstanding when it comes to legislation too. You can't just parachute pieces of UK legislation into Welsh legislation; there are different frameworks at work. Therefore, legislation must be tailored for Wales, and the UK Act was tailored for England. Some of the 2022 Act applies to Wales, of course, and those provisions were addressed through the legislative consent process, but trying to shoehorn—