9. Welsh Conservatives Debate: Building Safety Act 2022

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:35 pm on 16 November 2022.

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Photo of Janet Finch-Saunders Janet Finch-Saunders Conservative 5:35, 16 November 2022

Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. Welsh Labour would have you believe that they are working incredibly hard to ensure those buildings affected by the cladding issues are safe, and I'm sorry, Members, but this is simply not the case. As of last month, only 68 of 163 buildings had received intrusive surveys. Over five and a half years on from the Grenfell Tower fire, the fact that leaseholders are still stuck at the survey stage is simply unacceptable. Leaseholders are facing rising insurance costs due to the high-risk profile of the buildings. One couple have claimed insurance costs have risen from £67,000 to £624,000 per year, an increase of 831 per cent.

Minister, your Government, you, have received £60 million in capital and £1.7 million in revenue from the UK Conservative Government for cladding remediation and building safety work. In response to a freedom of information request that asked for the total of money spent on building safety work from the allocation, you've responded with 'nil'. Of the £375 million you've made available to tackling building safety, how much has now been spent, and how many buildings have you made safe?

Failure is what we're also seeing with the leaseholder support scheme. It was disclosed earlier this month that only one applicant is in receipt of independent advice, and three are being taken forward to purchase. We have thousands of victims affected by this, so the stats speak for themselves. You've got to now start focusing on ensuring that the crux of the problems is addressed.

Last April, Rt Hon Michael Gove MP announced for England that major home builders accounting for half of new homes have pledged to fix all unsafe tall buildings they've had a role in developing. Yet, you took until July to even catch up. So, as of today, can you clarify whether Laing O'Rourke, Westmark and Kier—now Tilia—have responded at all? Because I know in one debate, you mentioned that you were having problems interacting and getting engagement and responses from them. Well, I have to be honest, when I write to people, I usually get a response, because I don't let go.

Another area where Wales has fallen behind England is on legal rights, and I think we're all very proud here today to support the Welsh Cladiators section 116 to 125 campaign, which is the gist of the motion by Darren Millar. For example, section 123 enables remediation orders to be made by the first-tier tribunal

'requiring a relevant landlord to remedy specified relevant defects in a specified relevant building by a specified time.'

Section 124 enables orders to be made

'requiring a specified body corporate or partnership to make payments to a specified person, for the purpose of meeting costs incurred or to be incurred in remedying relevant defects'. 

And section 126 relates to

'meeting costs incurred or to be incurred in remedying relevant defects' when a landlord is winding up a company.

Despite me raising the exact points in the motion today with the First Minister on 18 October, a month later, here we are, having to discuss the same problem. There was a hint in his response to me that things could maybe go forward, but I'm still at a total loss as to why we on these benches are having to push you in the way we are. This is inexcusable when considering that the English Building Safety Act is now ready. You could, as is being done for single-use plastics—. When it suits this Welsh Government, you fast-track legislation through this Welsh Parliament, and yet now that is not the case. How much worse must the lives of those trapped leaseholders be before this Welsh Government takes the decisive actions we are calling for?

I know that Members in Plaid Cymru have been supportive of the Welsh Cladiators campaign, as has Jane Dodds, and we are prepared to go to a public meeting on this now and actually meet up and hold this Welsh Labour Government to account. I'm glad the First Minister has arrived to hear the very end of this debate from me. Maybe other Members will make the point: First Minister and Minister, you are failing these people in Wales. Diolch yn fawr.