Well, Llywydd, the Government will carry out our negotiations with trade unions with the trade unions. That is the right way for these matters to be resolved, and that, actually, is the way that I think is respectful to our trade union colleagues, that we discuss these matters directly with them, rather than by proxy on the floor of the Senedd. And that's what we will do.

We will, in doing so, talk to them, as I say, about how any sum of money we may be able to establish in this financial year can be dispersed amongst trade union members. We will certainly want to talk to them about ways in which trust could be re-established in the pay review process. There will be ideas that we will want to put on the table as to how that could be done, and I'm very keen indeed to hear from our trade union colleagues as to how they think that confidence in that process can be restored.

I think it is very important, from a Welsh worker's point of view, that we are able to do that, Llywydd. Over 20 years, and particularly in the last 12 years, we have been involved in seeing off a series of attempts by Conservative Chancellors to move to regional pay in public services. There is nothing they would like more than to see Welsh workers paid less than workers elsewhere. The pay review process protects Welsh workers from pay regionalisation, and that's why I believe that a real effort to re-establish trust in that process is worth making.