Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:06 pm on 20 June 2017.
Can I welcome the First Minister’s statement and the ‘Brexit and Devolution’ statement, which is a substantive and reasoned case, and advocates a new reality? It also, critically, has a tone of partnership in recognising that all parts of the UK want to make these new arrangements work after we leave the European Union.
Could I ask the First Minister—? In his statement and in the ‘Brexit and Devolution’ paper, there are references to ‘binding UK frameworks’ being ‘drawn up and agreed’. Can he clarify whether he envisages that, in addition to individual decisions within the council of Ministers, the basic frameworks could also be agreed on that basis of a UK plus 1 formula that the statement also sets out? Also, can he confirm the sense in which those frameworks would be binding? Is the statement, in effect, saying they would be binding in statute in some way?
There are also references, which he echoed in his statement, to ‘independently managed arbitration’. Again, is that process going to be one that is a statutory process that has teeth, or, if not, can he elaborate on that proposal?
There are references in the paper to a statutory underpinning for the council of Ministers, and I’m encouraged that, perhaps, we share the view that—notwithstanding the UK Government’s historic reluctance to deal with matters generally in this area with a view that is based on coherence and reason—we could move beyond a sort of handshake approach to one that enshrines, in statute, these new intergovernmental relations, just as the devolution powers are enshrined in statute and, dare I say it, perhaps, at some point, we might have a fair funding formula based in statute as well.