7. Statement by the Minister for Environment: Extended Producer Responsibility

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:06 pm on 8 May 2018.

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Photo of Hannah Blythyn Hannah Blythyn Labour 6:06, 8 May 2018

Can I thank the Member for his numerous contributions? He makes a number of really important points. You actually started off by mentioning The Ship Inn in Aberporth. I managed to stay there when I went to the launch of the New Quay plastic-free community as well. And it was brilliant to go Natural Weigh last week to have a look at what they've learned from others elsewhere, and now they're getting people in Wales coming to them to see how they can learn. I managed to make the most of the visit and took my own container and bought some nice chocolates and also invested in some bamboo toothbrushes. [Inaudible.] I'm not sure whether that's approval or not.

In terms of the facts and figures in the report, one of the things that struck me is the 237 million coffee cups that are disposed of every year in Wales. Across the UK, it's 13 billion single-use plastic bottles, which is an astonishing number, and I think only 7.5 billion of those are actually recycled. Actually, the point I'm talking about is the headline stuff that we're getting, and, for want of a better phrase, they come with a package on packaging, and looking at it in the whole, which I think has always been our position. I said to my colleague David Melding that we don't want to focus on one area of concern, as I find that the unintended consequence is that we tackle that one issue and then find we've got a similar issue elsewhere.

One of the things we need to look at as part of the UK Government's call to evidence is that it does look at different types of—what is single-use plastic? What is the problematic nature? I would hope from that—we will see when that closes on 18 May—and feed into that about—. Actually, it isn't just about single-use plastic bottles or singling out a particular issue; it's also about looking at it in the whole, how we tackle it to actually have the best long-term difference and make that change that we want to make, not just for the environment, but, as you said, for our economy too.

I thought you'd definitely mention the money, the £500,000 and, clearly, there are some ideas outlined in the Eunomia report, but that is something I'm sure that we will discuss further outside of this debate today. Looking at a UK approach in terms of a DRS, and also on a single-use plastics tax, I've made clear previously, and hopefully, if we are still—. Plastic tax was one of the four options to potentially test that power. It's not the one that's going forward because we've opted to work with the UK Exchequer to try and have a UK-wide single-use plastic tax. At the moment, those discussions are ongoing and positive.

We've always said from the outset, should that not be a possibility, then we're keen to explore solutions on a Wales-wide basis as well. That's why in this statement today I also brought up the potential of looking at how we tackle all those single-use coffee cups and beverage containers as well.