Thank you to Jenny Rathbone for those crucial points and questions. I'm glad that you've drawn attention to Jean Corston's seminal report on this issue, on the vulnerabilities of women in the criminal justice system 12 years ago. Yourself and Julie Morgan and Julie James, and others across the Chamber—Leanne Wood and others—have raised these issues in terms of how we can take this forward—and with Alun's support when he had that ministerial role as well. Too many women have been sent to prison, often for those low-level summary offences. The impact, as I said, of incarceration, has had a catastrophic impact on them and their families, and it doesn't do anything in terms of treatment, rehabilitation or any—. There is work being done in terms of reducing the number of women—by the UK Government—in custody serving less than 12 months.

But without this new facility of the women's residential centres, approximately 175 women at any one time will still be serving sentences for 12 months away from their families and communities. So, this must stop, and I think we now have to take responsibility with our powers and with these blueprints today, and in implementation plans, which have actually been backed now by the Ministry of Justice. So, now is the time to do it, regardless of the politics of the future. Now is the time to grasp it. So, the response, I think, across the Chamber from Assembly Members is very valuable in terms of the message I'll be taking back to Ministers in the UK Government.

I'm interested that you mentioned Lord Farmer's report in terms of children, because we are looking at women's residential centres, and I've already commented on who may be appropriate and eligible for those centres, and we need to co-produce to look at—for example, we have worked very closely with the Wales Women in Justice group for their ongoing involvement. That's co-chaired by the deputy police and crime commissioner for South Wales Police and Welsh Government officials. But also, clearly, we have worked with campaign groups who are engaged in this issue, particularly in taking it forward.

But Lord Farmer has been reviewing how we can support men in prison in England and Wales to engage with their families to reduce reoffending, but he has been asked to carry out a further piece of work that will consider if and how each of the review's recommendations could be adjusted for women offenders as well. It was originally focused on men in prison, but Lord Farmer's been asked to broaden his remit and make additional recommendations for women on community sentences and women in the community post release. So I will be following this through in terms of what that means in terms of children. I think we don't have to be prescriptive on this point about potential models of residential women's centres. But we have to be very clear about what this means in terms of access to children and with children in terms of those residential women's centres. I'm grateful for those questions.