Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:42 pm on 3 July 2019.
I think the Chair of the committee, Lynne Neagle, encapsulated perfectly the views of the committee on some of the key issues that we raised, and there was a very strong degree of specificity on the issues that we felt were pertinent to this. Therefore, I won't go back over those things but will just pick up some recommendations. But I would say, as a child of the 1980s, 'Bacc to the Future' has got to be one of the best committee reports that we've ever had. [Laughter.]
The Minister notes in her introduction to her response to the report that the content of the specification presents schools with a choice of delivery models, so a creative approach to curriculum requirements can be undertaken. That's what she says, and I think that fits very much with the approach of the new curriculum and the development of the new curriculum and how that will be implemented too, so there's a parallel there. And I think Suzy Davies touched on that in some of the things that she was saying about how it develops.
But that also raises that question—. I don't want to echo too much of what Suzy said, but to what degree do we balance the autonomy of individual schools, colleges and lecturers against the need for consistency throughout the qualification? That's a clear challenge that the different approaches can also lead to a lack of consistency in the approaches taken to the Welsh bac, and can therefore lead to the undermining of the delivery. Recommendations 8 and 10 touch on that, in that they call for—and it's been accepted by the Government—that continual evaluation of and learning about the impact of the Welsh baccalaureate on other education reforms and the wider change that is going through the curriculum at the moment. The Minister will know that I've raised with her experiences that schools have had on those wider issues. It's encouraging that the Minister has accepted both those recommendations, 8 and 10.
I had a meeting with ColegauCymru during the inquiry and afterwards to discuss some of the concerns that they may have that would be raised in the report but also more broadly. They noted recommendation 7 about the concerns about the mental health and well-being of learners. ColegauCymru also said that they're aware of learners who potentially struggle to juggle the demands of the Welsh bac, their main chosen qualifications and also resits in either English, Welsh or maths GCSE particularly. And it's a lot to take on and could have a detrimental impact on the learners' well-being as well as their ability to achieve both the advanced Welsh baccalaureate as opposed to the skills challenge certificate, and the Minister has accepted that recommendation and makes reference to the joint ministerial task and finish group, and I think this is the one that the Chair of the committee is a member of. I think it would be helpful to have a little bit more detail on precisely what will be done with regard to the Welsh bac via that committee.
And finally, ColegauCymru also raised the issue of changes to the way the Welsh bac is funded in the next academic year. They said that if FE colleges don't register learners for the qualification, they stand to lose several hundred pounds per learner, while this situation doesn't apply to schools. This is what they told me. And, ultimately, funding drives behaviour in choices, so you could end up seeing a differential between the ways FE and schools approach the Welsh bac. It wasn't directly covered by the report itself, but I think it would be helpful to have a response from the Minister on that as well.