The Welsh Government was warned by an Assembly committee in 2013, I think, that it must address rolling stock issues as a matter of urgency, especially in light of compliance deadlines that we knew were coming. Can you tell us why it is that the transport Minister left it until this autumn before requesting the dispensation to continue using those trains?

Officials warned as far back as May last year that you wouldn't be able to replace the non-compliant trains on time. You say that Transport for Wales isn't in a unique position in needing dispensation. You're quite right. Northern Rail in England is facing similar problems and has been granted dispensation on the basis that it will couple Pacers with compliant trains. Transport for Wales have indicated that they're looking at doing the same, but it appears that they don't have sufficient compliant trains in order to do that. So, where does that leave us?

On Northern Rail, several prominent Labour politicians have been asking for a fare reduction for passengers forced to endure the Pacer trains past the promised date for their removal. The calls have come from the Greater Manchester mayor, Andy Burnham; the Sheffield city region mayor, Dan Jarvis; the leader of Leeds City Council, Judith Blake. Can you confirm that this Labour Welsh Government will ensure similar fare reductions in Wales for the misery endured on your watch?