5. Debate on the Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee Report: 'The future of bus and rail in Wales'

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:16 pm on 18 January 2023.

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Photo of Alun Davies Alun Davies Labour 4:16, 18 January 2023

I'm always grateful for the Minister's candour. It's a refreshing candour, and we all appreciate it. Let me say one thing, and I admire your fortitude with an electric bike. If you lived in Tredegar this morning, you wouldn't have enjoyed it. But, in terms of the issue around Cardiff, because it is an important issue, it's profoundly unfair that my constituents and constituents from elsewhere in the Valleys, whom Cardiff relies upon in terms of retail and professional employment and the rest of it, would be asked to pay a congestion charge that pays for improvements in Cardiff and not for improvements in the Valleys and elsewhere. That is profoundly unfair. And, for people like me, I would never, ever be persuaded to support that. So, we need to find something that is fair and equitable for everyone who uses this transport system.